[weapon121]

Hello

Are all Gadgets automaticly linked to the first layer? I created a simple animated tree to place on layer 3. However, once the layer starts scrolling the tree scrolls along at the speed of the first layer instead of Layer 3's speed. Im stumped, is this by design?

Any replies would be appreciated, thx in advance

[telles0808]

weapon121, on 22 November 2010 - 02:47 PM, said:

Hello

Are all Gadgets automaticly linked to the first layer? I created a simple animated tree to place on layer 3. However, once the layer starts scrolling the tree scrolls along at the speed of the first layer instead of Layer 3's speed. Im stumped, is this by design?

Any replies would be appreciated, thx in advance

First you need to check if you placed it really on layer 3. another thing if how you configures his gadget, it's static, with no conditional? try to change his speed for something like the layer speed, another thing is about it to export in flash, it will bug, be careful

[weapon121]

telles0808, on 22 November 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:

First you need to check if you placed it really on layer 3. another thing if how you configures his gadget, it's static, with no conditional? try to change his speed for something like the layer speed, another thing is about it to export in flash, it will bug, be careful

Yes, Ive placed it on all available layers. It shows correctly on whatever layer I place it on, so it is covered by whatever layer is in front of it. However, the gadget scrolls as if on the first layer. It is animated, but it has no conditional whatsoever, since it only has one action. When you say speed, do you mean the speed under
the action tab "under movement speed" ? if so, Ive tried everything from 0-100...still with the same results.

[telles0808]

humm, I see, it really look like a glitch.

[crayonbako]

Have you tried making the gadget's Layer for Display match the layer you put it on in the Canvas?

That is, if you have it on layer 2 on the canvas, make sure its Layer for Display is also set to 2?

[weapon121]

crayonbako, on 23 November 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

Have you tried making the gadget's Layer for Display match the layer you put it on in the Canvas?

That is, if you have it on layer 2 on the canvas, make sure its Layer for Display is also set to 2?

sadly, yes....The only workaround I found was actually scrolling the gadget to the right and left at a certain speed that matches the speed of the layer, whenever the player character is moved. This gives the impression that it is scrolling with the specific layer, howeveer, if the player runs into a wall and the layers stop moving, the gadget continues to scroll towards the pressed direction...

i tried with the supplied gadgets in the demo files, and it also does the same....so im guessing its by design. Can anyone else confirm this with their own copies?

[telles0808]

you're right, I never did something like this before, so, I was not prepared to answer you right. After looking around, I learned a little more about this glitch and your workaround will work perfectly if you do some "next poses" where you detect when the player "will collide" with a wall, telling the "tree" to stop moving, etc.

I'm certain that the gadgets are not for use without interaction with the player, so, everything with interaction with the player will keep his config aspect, speed, etc.

Like I said here:

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First you need to check if you placed it really on layer 3. another thing if how you configures his gadget, it's static, with no conditional? try to change his speed for something like the layer speed, another thing is about it to export in flash, it will bug, be careful

and looking what you did to workaround, I think this is the only way to make your workaround.

In the player gadget, do the follow steps.
- Pose:
* "colliding with a wall";
- next action for every other poses from this one will have the condition of "next step hit a wall" or "collided with a wall";

When in "colliding with a wall" make this pose to chance a switch, Switch "Collided", so, in the tree gadget, make it to move to right/left like you did, using the same speed, etc, and now, make a next action to stop, with the condition looking for that switch.

I think this will solve your problem.

Animated trees maybe looks nice, I understand why you would use it =]

[weapon121]

telles0808, on 24 November 2010 - 08:31 AM, said:

you're right, I never did something like this before, so, I was not prepared to answer you right. After looking around, I learned a little more about this glitch and your workaround will work perfectly if you do some "next poses" where you detect when the player "will collide" with a wall, telling the "tree" to stop moving, etc.

I'm certain that the gadgets are not for use without interaction with the player, so, everything with interaction with the player will keep his config aspect, speed, etc.

Like I said here:



and looking what you did to workaround, I think this is the only way to make your workaround.

In the player gadget, do the follow steps.
- Pose:
* "colliding with a wall";
- next action for every other poses from this one will have the condition of "next step hit a wall" or "collided with a wall";

When in "colliding with a wall" make this pose to chance a switch, Switch "Collided", so, in the tree gadget, make it to move to right/left like you did, using the same speed, etc, and now, make a next action to stop, with the condition looking for that switch.

I think this will solve your problem.

Animated trees maybe looks nice, I understand why you would use it =]

Cool, its good to know Its by design then. Cool Ill create that extra pose to complete my workaround, ill let you know how it turns out...THX!

[crayonbako]

I've been messing around with layers myself recently, and run into a similar problem as you have, weapon121. If your work-around is too time-consuming, you might want to consider making the trees into animated tiles, rather than gadgets. That way they will move with the layer at the correct speed.

I'm currently having trouble with gadgets on the same layer as the Player. Does anyone know if there is a way to force a gadget on the Player's layer to be in front or behind?
That is, if you have an NPC who the player can talk to on the same layer as the Player, is it possible to make the NPC always clip behind the Player?
As far as I can tell, the gadget being in front or behind the Player is completely random, which is very frustrating.
Any thoughts?

[telles0808]

crayonbako, on 30 November 2010 - 07:55 PM, said:

I've been messing around with layers myself recently, and run into a similar problem as you have, weapon121. If your work-around is too time-consuming, you might want to consider making the trees into animated tiles, rather than gadgets. That way they will move with the layer at the correct speed.I'm currently having trouble with gadgets on the same layer as the Player. Does anyone know if there is a way to force a gadget on the Player's layer to be in front or behind?That is, if you have an NPC who the player can talk to on the same layer as the Player, is it possible to make the NPC always clip behind the Player?As far as I can tell, the gadget being in front or behind the Player is completely random, which is very frustrating.Any thoughts?

hello crayon,

that case is not about tiling with animated tiles, but to have a iteration between gadget and player later, like the player exploding the tree.

Your problem is not random, it's clear defined. Do you know the origin point?

The most lower point will appear in the front, the most higher will appear behind the gadget.

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